tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post6818458748598294744..comments2023-11-05T04:58:15.443-07:00Comments on Straight and Narrow Blog: The Mormon Obama Mania will EndJettboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00300495482595955440noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-33470346893776109952008-12-04T12:16:00.000-07:002008-12-04T12:16:00.000-07:00Against my better judgment and out of show of some...Against my better judgment and out of show of some respect I quote the following in full:<BR/><BR/>Aspen 08 wrote,<BR/><BR/>"PS: I noticed that you disabled comments on your Obama blog (which is why I am posting here). Was this possibly because you feared some discussion about your radical tirade on the "false massaih" who is the obvious sign of the "end of days"? I hope that you will re-read Jettboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300495482595955440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-43204111823179576422008-10-31T17:31:00.000-06:002008-10-31T17:31:00.000-06:00Rochelle Beach, Amen and Amen. I used to be not fo...Rochelle Beach, Amen and Amen. I used to be not for Obama, but have gone beyond that to being absolutely against the monster! and the more I hear the less I feel the U.S. will survive past the man if the Democrats win both houses with him. That the fork tongued smooth talking devil has grabbed the hearts of so many Mormons is a disgrace.<BR/><BR/>The calamities of the End Times are here and "Jettboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300495482595955440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-21591390348691560352008-10-27T19:42:00.000-06:002008-10-27T19:42:00.000-06:00What is at stake here is far more important than p...What is at stake here is far more important than party affiliation..or who said what about our faith. What really is at stake is saving the consitution. It is upholding the ideals of that sacred document. It is a very simple choice for me. I choose to uphold the consitution to the best of my ability. <BR/><BR/>I consider this political sitution to be similar to the war in Heaven we either Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-41851148550000645032008-10-20T13:32:00.000-06:002008-10-20T13:32:00.000-06:00'"It should be pointed out that with the exception...'"It should be pointed out that with the exception of Abortion and Gay rights, your list of dealbreakers has nothing to do with whether or not a person is Mormon or not."'<BR/><BR/>"True, but yet they are HUGE! After all, they are dealbreakers. At the end of the day I could have listed just those two points and won my argument."<BR/><BR/>Gay rights and abortion are really moral issues than Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-50135831092984043972008-09-22T14:48:00.000-06:002008-09-22T14:48:00.000-06:00I feel rather degraded and condescended to. Being ...I feel rather degraded and condescended to. Being judged and pitied by one of your own. When you go out into the world and assert to church members who hold wide varieties of political views your "Mormon=Republican" opinion, they feel distanced and different from church members. People like you (those who accuse different political view holders of "know[ing] not what they do") really hurt those jaredca13https://www.blogger.com/profile/14225754433846635635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-32255641844272196102008-09-16T08:07:00.000-06:002008-09-16T08:07:00.000-06:00signed, bleeding heart pinko.signed, <BR/><BR/>bleeding heart pinko.BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-51117254097821419372008-09-16T08:01:00.000-06:002008-09-16T08:01:00.000-06:00gee, I don't feel condescended to at all...Voting ...gee, I don't feel condescended to at <I>all</I>...<BR/><BR/>Voting for Obama makes one a Democrat, it seems. Regardless of party affiliation. A brilliant stroke, old bean!BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-62747290615608923452008-09-16T07:53:00.000-06:002008-09-16T07:53:00.000-06:00I print this, because I am not sure if my response...I print this, because I am not sure if my response worked at another site:<BR/><BR/>Here is the thing, I have always considered the Democrat's economic theories (practice is another thing altogether) as a possible good. The problem is that they hold what I consider such abominable social theories (abortion and gay rights the vangard) that any redeeming qualities are swallowed up. Even the Jettboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300495482595955440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-75077312359369302772008-09-11T08:03:00.000-06:002008-09-11T08:03:00.000-06:00I presume you are in favor of completely abolishin...I presume you are in favor of completely abolishing taxes then? <BR/><BR/><BR/>ps- You misrepresent Obama.BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-25988061430519240832008-09-11T07:41:00.000-06:002008-09-11T07:41:00.000-06:00I am shocked at the amount of Mormons that fall in...I am shocked at the amount of Mormons that fall into the trap that it is the governments responsibility to do everything. The redistribution of wealth is crap. They take from everyone and give it to many who wont take care of them selves. People need to learn some basic economics and realize we would be better off if we let those businesses have their money so they can provide more jobs etc. Hendricks Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01185608796371955156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-44801874880364306612008-09-09T20:55:00.000-06:002008-09-09T20:55:00.000-06:00I can relate. I feel like the "black sheep" in my ...I can relate. I feel like the "black sheep" in my family because of my support for Obama and my moderate beliefs. I feel so liberal and left-minded when I'm around my family. Then when I step back and enter the midst of true, blue liberals, I relize that I'm really not all that liberal (just more liberal than my ultra-conservative family). <BR/><BR/>I am very liberal when it comes to the jaredca13https://www.blogger.com/profile/14225754433846635635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-27882743613326929202008-09-08T10:47:00.000-06:002008-09-08T10:47:00.000-06:00Wow! It has been fascinating to read all of your ...Wow! It has been fascinating to read all of your comments. My husband and I are the 'black sheep' on both sides of our family because of our 'liberalness.' A lifetime of very faithful activity in the church has me feeling that for the majority of Mormons, gay marraige and abortion are still 'dealbreakers'. I think at heart they have the potention to swing into more moderate ground, but they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-50359172412719224282008-09-03T12:42:00.000-06:002008-09-03T12:42:00.000-06:00I am a still-enthused LDS supporter of Obama.I am a still-enthused LDS supporter of Obama.BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-61736073771015783682008-09-02T19:12:00.000-06:002008-09-02T19:12:00.000-06:00Or rather he wants to be!Unless the republican par...Or rather he wants to be!<BR/><BR/>Unless the republican party pulls off another FLorida Barack Obama is going to be the next President and this "Mormon" is going to help him get there!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813192026954290193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-33687933774664723742008-09-02T19:08:00.000-06:002008-09-02T19:08:00.000-06:00I am a Christian. I am a Latter Day Saint. I am no...I am a Christian. I am a Latter Day Saint. I am not a Republican. I am also not a Democrat. I am voting for Barack. I voted against George W. Bush in both of his elections and exactly who I voted for is none of anyone's business but I will say that "my President" spoke at the DNC in Denver. I am an independent because I have my free agency guaranteed to me by my God and that is what is deeply Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813192026954290193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-54668161314620283112008-08-28T09:45:00.000-06:002008-08-28T09:45:00.000-06:00anonymous:As a Mormon and supporter of Obama, I do...anonymous:<BR/><BR/>As a Mormon and supporter of Obama, I don't think you are serving the interests of his presidential campaign well by treating the religious beliefs of others with such contempt. Oddly, this is something Obama himself would emphasize, so it seems unfortunate that you make light and warp my religious beliefs in an attempt to score political points for a campaign that would decryBHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-61821235694560372272008-08-27T23:10:00.000-06:002008-08-27T23:10:00.000-06:00Hey I don't understand why any mormon would be ups...Hey I don't understand why any mormon would be upset on basically all your points besides abortion and gay marriage. And that's pretty sad that anybody would let two non-issues set their mind on who is going to run the country. Also not letting someone make their own decisions is robbing them of their free agency is it not? Oh and just admit it....you don't like Obama because he doesn't want Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-23431811007055713352008-07-20T18:06:00.000-06:002008-07-20T18:06:00.000-06:00I am a Mormon from California (SF Bay Area) who is...I am a Mormon from California (SF Bay Area) who is a "Christian Democrat." Seriously, there is such a thing. Not in this country there isn't, but in Latin America and Europe there is. <BR/><BR/>Broadly speaking, Christian Democracy as an ideology is a form of communitarianism. It is a political philosophy focusing on the health of the community in all areas of community existence. This community jaredca13https://www.blogger.com/profile/14225754433846635635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-69599218849803308462008-07-05T22:22:00.000-06:002008-07-05T22:22:00.000-06:00Maybe Utah LDS are reliably "conservative republic...Maybe Utah LDS are reliably "conservative republican." But I'm from California, now going to grad school in Boston.<BR/><BR/>Mormons outside Utah aren't always as conservative politically. Remember here in Mass. Romney ran as a pro-choice, pro-gay, proudly LDS Republican. I voted for Romney in the primary, and I'm going to vote Obama in November.<BR/><BR/>So my point is that Utah won't flip to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-2570235855824069562008-06-20T16:08:00.000-06:002008-06-20T16:08:00.000-06:00Jettboy: Your post seems to have precious little t...Jettboy: Your post seems to have precious little to do with Mormons, and much to do with conservative Republicans. As a Mormon who strongly supports Barack Obama's candidacy I defer to the very able Steve M, and add my voice as a matter of "me too."<BR/><BR/>Especially lame was your list of what Obama voted for or against. This is a typical trick of the soundbite which does not take into BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-54733790544675371572008-02-15T16:15:00.000-07:002008-02-15T16:15:00.000-07:00wow, steve m., thanks for doing such a bang-up job...wow, steve m., thanks for doing such a bang-up job of arguing for we LDS who aren't conservatives. i greatly appreciate it, as my pro-liberal arguments tend to get very esoteric and meandering and require lots of patience to get through. although living the law of consecration has always sounded pretty darn liberal to me.colleeeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15208875996540107651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-10852446262175831952008-02-15T15:34:00.000-07:002008-02-15T15:34:00.000-07:00Titus,You try to draw a distinction between "secur...Titus,<BR/><BR/>You try to draw a distinction between "security issues that the government actually has a responsibility over" and "domestic issues," but you don't define the distinction, offer any justification for it, or articulate how it helps your argument. What are you trying to say? That if an issue is related to "security," that government intrusion is justified, but that if it's "domesticSteve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06261411264695719660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-33380696676612382062008-02-15T13:32:00.000-07:002008-02-15T13:32:00.000-07:00Need I remind you that the Bush administration has...<I>Need I remind you that the Bush administration has presided over one of the most invasive governments in U.S. history? Warrentless wiretapping, the Patriot Act...ring a bell?</I><BR/><BR/>Those are security issues that the government actually has a responsibility over.<BR/><BR/><I>And to imply that Democrats are against personal responsibility or that they want a government that takes control Titus Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04817835916632706280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-21783343585541704092008-02-15T06:52:00.000-07:002008-02-15T06:52:00.000-07:00Titus,It is about personal responsibility and keep...Titus,<BR/><BR/><I>It is about personal responsibility and keeping government from taking control of our lives.</I><BR/><BR/>Need I remind you that the Bush administration has presided over one of the most invasive governments in U.S. history? Warrentless wiretapping, the Patriot Act...ring a bell?<BR/><BR/>And to imply that Democrats are against personal responsibility or that they want a Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06261411264695719660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-2356563515814864002008-02-14T20:01:00.000-07:002008-02-14T20:01:00.000-07:00Many Mormons are conservative Republicans for deep...Many Mormons are conservative Republicans for deeper reasons than abortion and gay rights (both family values issues to an extent). It is about personal responsibility and keeping government from taking control of our lives.<BR/><BR/><I>That President Bush enjoys less than a 50% approval rating in Utah indicates that even hard-line Republicans have experienced some degree of disenchantment with Titus Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04817835916632706280noreply@blogger.com