tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post6901539939025604621..comments2023-11-05T04:58:15.443-07:00Comments on Straight and Narrow Blog: Response to Richard Bushman Part I: FoolishnessJettboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00300495482595955440noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-38090404954202441042008-07-17T07:50:00.000-06:002008-07-17T07:50:00.000-06:00izgad, corrected. Not that there aren't other prob...izgad, corrected. Not that there aren't other problems if doing a full edit. I consider blogging personal musings, not a professional publication. A lot of people "ding" me for that.<BR/><BR/>If you have any substantial thoughts on my post, I would like to read them.Jettboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300495482595955440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-10111721254370312672008-07-16T16:10:00.000-06:002008-07-16T16:10:00.000-06:00"There was viciousness from media, religionists, e..."There was viciousness from media, religionists, ecularists and the general public that made me rethink Mormonism's place in the world."<BR/><BR/>secularistsIzgadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869626126435460209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-39504223696869037822008-03-25T17:23:00.000-06:002008-03-25T17:23:00.000-06:00smallaxe, I don't think we disagree much - if at a...smallaxe, I don't think we disagree much - if at all. All I said was not to discount violence and political alliance in the spread of Buddhism "totally". I simply wanted to make the point that even Buddhism has been enforced by weaponry at various times in various locations. Warrior monks are a long and storied tradition in China and Japan. <BR/><BR/>Having said that, I agree completely that Papa Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704974609266088416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-45152158762545412312008-03-25T17:07:00.000-06:002008-03-25T17:07:00.000-06:00*spelling. Thanks for the blog connection, jettboy...*spelling. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the blog connection, jettboy. I believe you may be speaking passed Bushman here.<BR/><BR/>One of Bushman's points was that there are things we can't force as far as perception goes. We can be who we are, though, and go from there. <BR/><BR/>(And from there we ought to provide more than "your church false my church true" or "your religion has plenty of good!" kind BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-40602683536773517792008-03-25T17:05:00.000-06:002008-03-25T17:05:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.BHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751807169882645742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-280278838183019592008-03-24T19:44:00.000-06:002008-03-24T19:44:00.000-06:00smallaxe, don't discount totally the violence and ...<I> smallaxe, don't discount totally the violence and political alliances within Buddhism's history. I agree its spread was not due to institutional violence to the extent that others were, but it was not absent. </I><BR/><BR/>The claim being made isn't about political alliances and violence in Buddhism's history in China/East Asia, but a specific kind of violence related to growth and conversionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-29475947283227073322008-03-24T12:43:00.000-06:002008-03-24T12:43:00.000-06:00Jettboy,Dude, the Mormon religion will indeed be a...Jettboy,<BR/><BR/>Dude, the Mormon religion will indeed be a Major World Religion. So prophesieth Joseph Smith. So are you saying that this church of ours will soon start employing fear and violence to increase those numbers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-51329035872129914212008-03-24T12:22:00.000-06:002008-03-24T12:22:00.000-06:00Fwiw, your problems and answers don't match Bushma...Fwiw, your problems and answers don't match Bushman's actual words. I agree with everything Bushman wrote in the sections you quoted; I agree with most of what you wrote - in isolation. I just don't see your criticism as valid for Bushman's actual statements. <BR/><BR/>smallaxe, don't discount totally the violence and political alliances within Buddhism's history. I agree its spread was not Papa Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704974609266088416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442628.post-14618893542840179492008-03-24T08:23:00.000-06:002008-03-24T08:23:00.000-06:00A couple of things to point out:Not all world reli...A couple of things to point out:<BR/><BR/>Not all world religions are spread by violence. Buddhism moved to China and East Asia without the violence seen in the other movements you speak of.<BR/><BR/>Many of the "intellectuals" you refer to which "won't listen" actually will listen if you take the time to listen to them.<BR/><BR/>Is your position that we should basically forget what others think Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com